This week on Pine Pony Podcast the OG and Fantasy uncle are here to discuss free agency and its impact on fantasy in a fun game called FANTASY YEET OR NO YEET.
This week on Pine Pony Podcast the OG and Fantasy uncle are here to discuss free agency and its impact on fantasy in a fun game called FANTASY YEET OR NO YEET.
Welcome, welcome, welcome back at it again for another edition of the pine pony podcast. It is myself, the OG strengths to hanging out with. A fantasy uncle and his favorite episode, an episode all about fantasy. What's happening in Persian.
Pershin:Howdy kids. Yeah, very excited for this episode because, you know, I am the fantasy uncle and this is exactly what I live for to nerd out about fantasy implications.
Jason:That's right. So this episode we're going to get into. A little bit of the news, some March madness, and then we're going to talk about fantasy, but we're going to play a fun game with fantasy. Can't wait to play that. And we'll see what happens. So let's get into it.
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Jason:Up first, we got, we got this gambling scandal, Shohei Ohtani talking about his. Interpreter, it was fired for stealing 500, 000, 000 and then it turns out that that was a payment for the interpreter's supposedly gambling problem that a person who makes not 000, 000 gambling problem. So there is some wild shit going on there. I who knows what happened? This is Pete Rose, ban him now. This guy, a
Pershin:thousand percent has a gambling problem. That's for sure.
Jason:Yeah. I think I heard something like he didn't know that he couldn't pay someone's gambling debt. And it's just like, there's just a lot of like weird, weird stuff going on with that. So Yeah,
Pershin:the the the dude the interpreter himself sounds sus as hell. I don't blame them One bit for firing his
Jason:ass Yeah, and and the thing is is it was the dodgers who fired him like not even not even otani
Pershin:They don't yeah, they were like dude, not this one. Not this guy
Jason:Like you can stay but not your dude like nah, not your shady as fuck interpreter. We don't know what he's really saying So yeah,
Pershin:they should, they should, they should like go back over his translations and see if he was at being honest about that, his interpretations. That's right. That's yeah.
Jason:That's Hey, that's the new meta, man. That's the new meta, you know, spy gate, deflate gate. Now interpret gate.
Pershin:Yeah. We're on a
Jason:five, five D translate chest
Pershin:here.
Jason:I mean, I mean, Baseball, always been associated with if you're not cheating, you're not trying. This is just a different form of cheating. He's probably throwing games, man.
Pershin:I think it's likely that the Astros are still cheating in ways we haven't detected yet. 100%. 100%. As a team that's always been assed, they've been good for like the past decade in a row. And they've also been caught cheating a couple times. Like, man, they're cheating their asses off, man. Right. I mean, hey, the Patriots
Jason:were, you know, and they weren't even hiding from it. The Patriots weren't even hiding from it. So moving on we got some, some March Madness happenings. It looks like with 3. 9 seconds left that Kentucky is about to be upset by Oakland, a number 14 seed. The madness of March has indeed happened.
Pershin:Love it. This is what it's all about, man.
Jason:Yeah. This is
Pershin:why people love, this is why people love March Madness.
Jason:This is why I don't, I don't know the first,
Pershin:I don't know the first thing about Oakland basketball, but I'm a fan tonight. You know, I love it.
Jason:Yeah. And in, in another games, BYU, a number six seed got upset by Duquesne, Duquesne, the 11 seed. And South Carolina, the number six seed got upset by Oregon, the number 11 seed as well, which that one is the less surprising. I think we all kind of knew South Carolina was, was having an out of body experience year, which go for them, you know, no one's taking anything away from them. That's a great way to describe it. But I mean, they won 15 more games than they did last year. So that's just a wild, like, that's just a crazy turn of the pendulum. You went from like bottom of the barrel sec to almost competing, like being the number one record wise in the sec. So you know, they had a good run, you know, no one expected them to be there. So good for them. Other than that, the, all the upper seeds won outside of Michigan state beat Mississippi state. That was a nine and eight game though. So that game could go either way. Yeah. So, but Clemson plays tomorrow and they're probably going to lose. So you never know. You never know. Well, my my wild card, McNeice is not, it's not doing so hot. Will Wade does not have them playing so well. Sad, sad. Yeah. So I have a question based on this news here though, with the, the Shohei Otani and all of this gambling coming into sports more so like just everything getting into bed with each other. I mean, what is, how do you, you know, even with the rules, how do you maintain status quo? How do you keep sports?
Pershin:I, I don't, I don't think it's actually that big of a, of an issue. I have heard plenty of people kind of you know, with the same sentiment, basically that it's a dangerous game or it's some sort of a slippery slope. I don't think it needs to be a slippery slope at all. You just have clear expectations in place and you have clear sort of repercussions in place. And then. You actually live by them, meaning you just enforce what you're supposed to be enforcing. And I think that you could, you can literally, you know, hop all the way in bed with Whatever industry and as long as the players coaches, you know, the team members and whatever, as long as you have, you know, guidelines, clear policies and clear you know, punishments, I think it's fine. I think that it doesn't necessarily have to be a gray area. I think a lot of people are assuming The more sort of emphasis that comes on gambling, the more grades going to become for the actual players, coaches, whoever involved in the sports. And I just don't think that that's true. I think that you can have a pretty set, you know you can have a pretty thick line. There are very black and white line there by saying like, look, this is for. Everybody else, who enjoys our sports, it's not necessarily for us though, like, I don't think it's really that
Jason:complex. Right, but what if, what if the ones that are not following the rules are the ones making the rules? Then what?
Pershin:Well, then they need, they need to be punished even more severely. They need to be lifetime banned, you're out of here. Hopefully they
Jason:can be. What if Roger Goodell is telling referees to call a play one way and then boom, he immediately makes. 500 million off that game.
Pershin:Yeah, no, I think, I think that we should all demand his resignation. If that happens, if, if something like that were to go down, then yeah,
Jason:it would be a little bit harder. We wouldn't know. Cause he'd also, he wouldn't be getting the money.
Pershin:Well, look, if we don't know, I don't think we should assume that those things are happening. But if, if we do ever know, then I think that we should demand better, demand other but you
Jason:know,
Pershin:honestly, I think that You might just have to have different penalties than some people would be comfortable with. I know for, you know, for instance, e sports and since people consider that sports nowadays, I think it's fair game for the pod, but I know that what a lot of, what a lot of these games do, you know, whether it's like CS go, it's called duty, halo, whatever, like when they actually do catch someone who's cheated in one of these online tournaments or whatever. They're just lifetime bad, even though they have the in person. Yeah. Even though they have the in person land tournament where you can't bring your own stuff and you can't use cheating software, you're still, you can't come. You're just forever. You're just, you can't play in any of our, at least any of our official. Sponsored or shanked sanction. The only thing you can
Jason:play at is Barnes and Nobles and games. And,
Pershin:you know, a lot of people are like, man, that is super duper harsh. And like, you know, some of these kids are just teenagers, you know, they, they don't know quite what they're getting into or whatever. And even some people who say kind of like what you said already on the spot, which is like, If you're not cheating, you're not trying, come on, it's not that, you should let them back in, they've learned their lesson or whatever. But, the thing is that it works, like having that really stiff penalty, and everybody knows you can't, you can't even fuck with it. You can't even attempt to get away with it because it's not worth it. It's just not worth it. And I think that, I think that it, you know, If it does become more prevalent that more you find more players And coaches whoever it is fucking around the the answer unfortunately is just gonna have to be Much different penalties and and I would be fine with that because I like I said and with a lot of these video game things it it works like people really don't for sure people don't fuck around Nearly as often as they could so
Jason:All right Well persian I have a I have a game to play with you. Ooh, spice. Okay. And this game is called fantasy yeet or no yeet. Yeet, yeet, yeet, yeet, yeet. So yeah, basically I'm going to give you a player and you're going to tell me whether you're excited about their fantasy potential this season or not very excited about their fantasy potential. And
Pershin:okay. So just real quickly, just want to clarify because you know, uncle is a boomer here. My understanding of yeet is like, it's a bad thing, right? So like, if I say yeet, that means I'm, I'm not in on them or no, no, no, no, no, no.
Jason:Yeet is like arrow up, excited for, okay. No yeet is a bad thing. No yeet is arrow down. Okay. I got you. I mean, there are other uses of yeet, like I yeeted across the room, those kinds of things. But we don't, that's not this type of podcast. Okay. Let's, let's keep it. Let's keep it excited. Yes.
Pershin:I
Jason:mean, eating could be good at all purposes. I mean, either way, that's not for us to decide or is it, I don't know, but, but first, so the first player that I'm going to come across along my notes here is Aaron Jones to the Vikings. Is this a yeet or no yeet? This is a
Pershin:no yeet for me. This is a no yeet. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people are like, oh, look, he landed on his feet. No big deal. He's going to be the dude. And yeah, that's true. Things did not go as poorly for him with Jacobs basically replacing him in Green Bay as they could have. That being said, he goes from a good offense to one with huge question marks. Okay, is it going to be Sam Darnold throwing him the ball? Or, or should I say, is it going to be Sam Darnold, you know, in charge of that offense? Is it going to be a Drake may a huge question mark like Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy. I do expect that the Vikings are going to try to trade up and get one of these QBs, but I mean, rookie QBs are always a question mark. And the thing is, The thing is that we saw that running game last year was not good. It was not good for Ty Chandler. It wasn't good for Alexander Madison. It wasn't good for any of the dudes that they tried out in that spot. I don't think it's going to be any easier. With kurt cousins gone now, you know, it's this is yeah, he got a starting job, but he's also 30 now he's got a lot of wear and tear on on those tires And he's on a bad offense. I'm no more excited for him right now than I am for let's say Devin Singletary, who's probably going to be the man in, in the Giants backfield. You know what I mean? It's yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just, there's too many question marks. And so I think that this is actually an, an overrated situation for him.
Jason:Yeah. And he he's been injury prone for the last two seasons, you know, has it really been, you know, play, it hasn't played a full season in quite a while. Yeah. It's a bummer for him. As much love as I got for him.
Pershin:Yeah, great player. Love the dude, but you know, fantasy wise,
Jason:it's risky. All right. Next on my list, King Henry, Derrick Henry going to the Ravens ye
Pershin:or no. Man, you're, you're starting out with all of the sort of. Controversial takes I have here. I have heard nothing but rave reviews for this move. And I do think that this is a pretty good landing spot for him. That being said, it's. It's a situation where they have always had a rotation, right? It's, it's going to be Justice Hill in there when Keaton Mitchell's healthy, he's going to be a part of that, and at the goal line, it's not always a running back that gets in. Now, last year, Gus Edwards did have, I think, 12? Touchdowns, but really that's above average for Ravens running backs. You know, they, they do run the ball a lot, but the thing is his role is going to be limited. He is older now and talk about wear and tear. I mean, he's had a Jillian. You know Carries in the past few years and to his credit. He has been very durable. He hasn't been very injury prone But I mean any moment now you've got to expect he's going to lose a step And in the nfl, you know, the cliff comes very quickly for these running backs as soon as you see any decline at all It's like They're they're they're they're just done. So look at what happened with delvin cook, you know what I mean? Yeah, he was great until he wasn't and now he doesn't even have a job right now He doesn't even have a job right now, you know, it's, it's ridiculous. And the thing is that he's going to be in a rotation and he's not just going to be rotating with other running backs. He's going to be rotating with Lamar Jackson too. And he's not going to be the past catching back, you know, and. And blanking right. Oh, for the Titans, he was the every down back and he got passes at least a little bit, you know, and now it's, it's pretty obvious that they're going to have other people doing that. Justice Hill is going to be much more of a pass catcher for them. And I think his, his role is going to be more limited than people realize. He could end up being a 10 to 12 carry dude per game. And he's going to be very touchdown dependent. He'll get touchdown sometimes, but he's not going to be as popping as people expect. So it's going to be a no, you actually.
Jason:Yeah. Wow. It's hard to say. It's hard to like, imagine these guys like on the back end of the career now, man. It's crazy. So moving on from Derrick Henry, I agree by the way, as much as I don't want to, I agree. So moving on from Derrick Henry, let's go to the guy you mentioned, Gus Edwards to the Chargers. Yeet or no yeet.
Pershin:This is a yeet. This is a yeet. Look, they did not add anything to that running back room. They lost Austin Ackler. And we saw how bad every other running back was. Anytime Austin Ackler was injured and they had to rely on anyone else, they were bad. All of those running backs that they've got on their roster suck. And guess what? The incoming draft class sucks. These running backs are not, there's, there's no B generational talents in this. Okay. There's no, there's no Jumeirah Gibbs.
Jason:There's no B generational.
Pershin:Yeah, there's no, there's no, it might be the third round before any running back is, is taken by any NFL team. I mean, it's, it's not a pretty running back class. And so while I do expect them to draft a dude or two, I don't expect that they'll play over Gus. I think Gus is a solid back and I think that he will be, you know. 60, 70, maybe even 80 percent touch dude. And it remains to be seen how good that offense is going to be. You know, they lost a lot of pieces, but if they, if that defense is even average, he's going to be producing for fantasy. And so his, his stock actually goes, his stock goes up. He's a
Jason:yeet. Absolutely. Absolutely. Also moving to. Aaron Jones's replacement, Josh Jacobs with the green Bay Packers. In my city,
Pershin:USA. I mean, The, we saw how much they leaned on Aaron Jones last year, and that was great. Aaron Jones did a great job while he was healthy. But the thing is that you're getting basically a younger version of Aaron Jones. Now you're getting a guy who's like five years younger and he's basically the same type of player. He
Jason:three
Pershin:years, three years,
Jason:26, Aaron Jones is 29.
Pershin:I thought Aaron Jones was 30 already.
Jason:No, he'll be 30 though, I think, this year.
Pershin:At any rate, the age curve is steep for these running backs, and so you get younger at the position, and he's the same sort of player. He's a do it all back. He can block well. He never needs to come off the field if you don't want him to. They did keep A. J. Dillon. He will be used. Sometimes, but I expect that Josh Jacobs is going to get 65, 70 percent of the touches on a good offense. And I mean, he's going from being productive on a bad offense to being the dude on a better offense. This
Jason:is ye. This is what I really like about it is I don't feel like Green Bay has to change his offense to put Josh Jacobs in there. He can do all of the same things Aaron Jones does. Just as good. And you got younger, you know, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's
Pershin:always been the one good thing about Josh Jacobs, you know, he's not necessarily an elite size speed athlete or tons of burst or whatever, but he just does everything at least good, you know, he's just very dynamic.
Jason:All right, well, moving on to. Austin Echler in the commanders. Whoo.
Pershin:This is bad. This is no yeet. This is, man, this guy went from being the absolute dude. And in 2021 and 2022, two years in a row, leading the league in touchdowns at the position. And now he goes to be. A third down back for less than, I think less than five and a half million per year. It's so obvious that Brian Robinson is going to be the early downs back and he's going to be the, you know, the, the third down pass catching specialist. And I, I mean, we, we kind of saw this coming. You know, he's one of these, well, he's one of these guys who got used a ton. He's a smaller back and he's getting older now. And so the past couple of years, his efficiency has really dropped. And so now the league's looking at him like. You're you're not that dude anymore. And I think it's true. I think it's just not that dude anymore. This is probably as good as as Situation as you can imagine, but when you're talking about fantasy, no, he's not gonna be producing He's gonna be the third down pass catching back. He'll only have good games when he gets in the end zone It's not gonna be that much. I mean Brian Robinson's clearly gonna be the better goal line back I mean No yeet, no
Jason:yeet. There's been so many running backs. I gotta keep going with them. My next one up is gonna be Tony Pollard in the Titans. Yeah,
Pershin:this one is a double no yeet because there was so much There was so much excitement for Tajay Spears to be the main dude and for them to bring in Tony Pollard On a bunch of money, you know, I think 16 million guaranteed over the next three years, 25 million, I think like altogether, I mean, that's basically starter money. And I think what's going to end up happening is they're going to have more like a 50 50 split, which is going to basically just. Both of them, they're both fucking, they're unfortunately both no yeets. I think they're both pretty good running backs, but they're, they're going to be split in touches too evenly. You know, if one of them does end up being like a 65 or 70 percent dude, okay. That would be great. But I don't, I doubt it. I doubt
Jason:it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Wow. I did not expect that. I did not expect that. It's not a great
Pershin:landing spot for Pollard. It's not.
Jason:No, it's not. Absolutely not. Absolutely. Alright, it's also
Pershin:a pretty bad offensive line, too.
Jason:Alright, I know, I know. I know somebody you're gonna, you're gonna get, you're gonna be excited about. Alright. Joe Nixon on the Texans. This is a double yeet city.
Pershin:This is a yeet. This is a yeet. Absolutely, this is a yeet. This is, I mean that, that was a good offense. That they had last year. There's no reason to believe that the offense is going anywhere, you know backwards the only two dudes who were part of that offense at all that May have left Noah Brown and Dalton Schultz. They re signed both of them. So yeah, they're both coming back They're gonna be adding some pieces in the draft. I would like to see them, you know, Try to get another offensive lineman or two. But the thing is that that offense is going to be clicking. And we saw what Devin Singletary was able to do last year when he became the dude. And I think that it's pretty obvious Joe Mixon is going to be that dude. And, you know, he's starting to get up there in age too. So we'll see if he has a decline in efficiency, but as long as, is he still solid Then they don't need to take him off the field. He can pass block. He could pass catch. He could do, he could do the short goal line stuff. You know, he, this is a great situation for him. I think that whether it be on the ground or through the air, he'll end up with a bunch of touchdowns next season.
Jason:Yeah, I love this. This is a, this is a double yeet. Yeet yeet for me. Yeet yeet? Yeah, because I mean, I've been shitting on this guy for like, what, three years now? Every year Smith drives him in fantasy and I have poo poo all over it. And every fucking year, this guy's pretty damn consistent in fantasy. So it's so funny. And Smith. And the fact that he ends up
Pershin:with mixing, he's never actually that excited for mixing. He just, he just, he just is always the one that drafts him when, when he inevitably falls in the draft. He's like, well, he's the best player left is
Jason:there, but always ends up being one of his cowbells. So yeah, I love it. Move it on. Let's see. Who do we got? All right. That's, that's what I got for running backs. I think. Going to Jerry, Judy, and the Browns. Can he kind of resurrect his career here? Yeet or no yeet? This
Pershin:one's actually a tough one for me because I do think he was kind of poorly utilized last season with the Broncos. I think that there actually was more meat on the bone than what they got out of him. That being said, I don't love the landing spot. I don't love what I've seen out of Deshaun Watts in the past couple of seasons. I think Amari Cooper still has a lot of juice to be that alpha. I don't think Judy's going to be the alpha. In fact, I think with. The, the sort of development that we've seen out of David and Joku the last couple of seasons. I think that Jerry Judy could be the third option and then even then as a third option, he's competing with Elijah Moore, who's shown the ability to get open in the close range. Those shortened intermediate routes. I think that he's got more target competition on a. Bad passing game than you would like. So I, I, I, I can see him in the future, maybe being that dude for the Browns. I think that there is still potential there. I think, I think there's still is a high talent ceiling for him, but I'm thinking more, of the next season than this coming season, if at all. So I guess I think this move's overrated. I'm going to give it a no yeet.
Jason:Yeah. Fantasy wise, at least this season, I agree with the no yeet. I mean, Amari Cooper is the guy there and Joku is, is clearly the second guy there. So, and then Elijah Moore, you know, we'll see what he has to give this, this season. I think to Sean Watson, you know, didn't do very well fantasy wise, but they were winning. So that at least confidence wise will follow into this season. So, well, that remains to be seen. But as of right now, that is a no yeet for me. No yeet. It is Keenan Allen on the bears.
Pershin:Keenan Allen is going to be a no yeet for me. As you know, I am very ageist and he is a very old man at this point. Very old man. He did very well last year. He did not show signs of slowing down. I'll give credit where credit is due. But he went from being the first, second, and third option in that Chargers passing game. Pretty obviously he's going to be behind DJ Moore in this passing game, okay? He's going to have a rookie throwing to him, and it's probably going to be Caleb Williams, and he Caleb Milliam Caleb Williams might be really good, but the thing is that it's there's more question marks At that pat at the qb position than he had with herbert obviously and he's going from being the obvious dude to being the second option and Honestly as as much as ibraflux loves to use the tight end and he not only do they have colecommit But they went and signed gerald effort as well. I feel like It would not shock me if he actually ends up being the third option in that passing game. Wow. Well, I think he'll still be all right. Like he'll still be probably in the top 30 wide receivers for next year when it comes to fantasy production. I think he's obviously gonna take a huge step
Jason:back. Like a flat, he would be like a flat. Flex or like a like a sub on your job.
Pershin:Yeah.
Jason:I mean,
Pershin:if, if you're like in a 12 and you start three receivers, then yeah, he'll probably still be startable. But the thing is that he was a clear cut, you know, number one wide receiver last year, the arrows obviously going to go down,
Jason:it'll
Pershin:be, it remains to be seen how far down it goes, but he'll be a no eat for me.
Jason:Yeah, there's my other running back, DeAndre Swift, for the Bears. Did we hit on him?
Pershin:We haven't hit on him. And I got to tell you, this was one of the more puzzling signings of free agency for me, because they had, they have two solid running backs already on that roster. I think for Deandre Swift, he goes from a very good offensive line in Philadelphia, where he was clearly the dude. To now probably in some sort of rotation. They did pay him basically starter money. So I think he'll probably get the bulk of the carries. But the thing is that more question marks on that offense overall, and he'll be in more of a rotation. So I think he'll still be solid. He'll probably be like a back end RB2 fantasy wise, but it'll be arrowed down from last year, I believe.
Jason:Yeah, so man, that's, that's kind of, that's all I kind of had as free agents that, you know, really with the movement that they had with their new team, you know, wanted to get your opinion. So you got any free agents that you wanted to point out fantasy wise? What, what could be somebody to look for? And maybe, do you have anybody that could be stay away? So continue with eat, no eat.
Pershin:Yeah, absolutely. I, I've, I've got some guys who I think are pretty big winners for fantasy this upcoming year. Big time eaters? I'll start, yeah, big time eats right here. Eat,
Jason:eat,
Pershin:eat all over the field? Yeah, I, I, I'll start with Saquon. This might be the first time in NFL history that a running back will go from the team Whose offensive line gave up the fewish yards before contact to the team whose offensive line gave up the most yards before contact. So as far as running is, is concerned, he's going from the worst situation offensive line wise to the best situation offensive line wise. I think that Saquon is going to eat. They paid him a lot of money for running back. And so they, they clearly expect him to be the dude and. I think he's You know, 26. He's not quite at that age where I'm worried about him age wise yet. I think that he's, he's good enough to capitalize on this good offensive line. I think he'll get plenty of work. I think arrows clearly up for him. I think another guy who's a big winner is Deontay Johnson. I think that he goes from sharing with George Pickens and the way that they like to spread the ball around. And Pittsburgh, at least what they did last year. And he goes to the Carolina Panthers where they are so starved for anyone to get open. The one thing he's good at is getting open, you know, he's not always that great after the catch. And in fact, he's, he's, you know, has, has a drop issue every now and then, but the thing is he gets open and he's going to get so many targets, you know, they'll probably try to draft somebody second. They'll bring in a dude or two, but not, not anyone that's going to cut into his work. I mean, they can literally bring in another Deontay Johnson and there'll be plenty of work to go around because they get, they just got nothing
Jason:right now. Number one overall. Fantasy draft pick, what you're saying, say, I'm,
Pershin:I'm going to have a bunch of him this year because people are, are not, people are going to be underrating just how many targets he's going to get. He's going to get 160, 170 targets this year if he stays healthy. Yeah, he's a, he's a big arrow up. He's a big arrow up. And in that same regard, also, I think Bryce young arrow up for him because not only did they bring in a Deontay Johnson for him, they also brought in a couple upgrades to the offensive line. I still think they could use another tackle on that offensive line, but. Hey, look, this is a huge upgrade. Obviously from his standpoint, he's going to get better protection. He's got a dude. He could actually count on to get open a lot of times. So arrow up for him too. Also Hollywood Brown. This is a big step for Hollywood Brown. He gets to, he gets to slide into that MBS role with Patrick Mahomes, where he's actually good at MBS. You can't catch the ball.
Jason:You mean our light Brown. Power and Light Brown. Power
Pershin:and Light Brown?
Jason:Yeah, yeah. It's a popular partying spot in, in Kansas City. In fact, if you've ever watched any like USA national team soccer games, that's typically where the party's at on TV. So he's now going by Power and Light Brown. Oh,
Pershin:okay. Well, hey, you know what power and light brown double fucking yeet. Okay. He he's going for a quarterback in kyler murray who Was not always the most accurate with those down the field passes Which is exactly what he specializes in and guess what kansas city really really needs They need better down the field dudes. MVS, Justin Watson, were not cutting it. Not only were they not getting open, but then when they were getting the ball right on their hands, they weren't fucking catching it. Marquise Brown is going to be a huge upgrade. He's going to eat early and often. He's going to get a lot of these big plays. And I mean, you know how fantasy is. You get a 60, 70 yard touchdown. That's all you need for a great fantasy day. And he's going to have that. A lot of games with those huge plays like that. It Pat Mahomes will not let him down the way that he got let down. Sometimes in Arizona arrow certainly up for him. Also Zach Moss. He is going to be the clear cut dude. He, he rolls into a situation in Cincinnati where he looked really good last year and now they're paying him starter money. The only other dude on that roster is Chase Brown. And I mean, Chase Brown is a small back. He is quick. He's, he's. Useful in certain situations, but it's pretty obvious that for the majority of the work they're going to be given that to Zach Moss and You know, they they're going to bring back T Higgins Probably we don't we don't know but the more time goes on the more likely that becomes and so I do expect that's going To be a good offense yet again Lots of touchdown upside lots of touchdown upside for him. And then my last big Is Gardner Minshew. Gardner Minshew goes into a situation where the only competition there is Aiden O'Connell. Guess what? Gardner Minshew is going to beat out Aiden O'Connell. And he gets to throw to Jacoby Myers, to an up and coming Michael Mayer, and to Devante Adams. And sometimes when you When you, when you get that situation. Yeah, I mean he, he goes from a backup dude for what the past four seasons to a dude who's going to be a starter. He's going to be out there. Didn't he start
Jason:most season last
Pershin:year, right? Yeah, he did. And he was good for fantasy. Okay. Yeah, I mean, he was like a top 12 QB last year. I mean, In which kind of league? What do you mean which kind of league?
Jason:Like, was it heavy extra QB points? I don't know.
Pershin:No, I think in normal, like in a
Jason:standard,
Pershin:yeah, I mean, I don't remember like what place he actually finished, but he, he did do pretty well last year in a points per game. So what you're saying is he
Jason:was B gen, he was B generational?
Pershin:No, he's not, he's not anything elite, but like when you, if you're playing in a super flex league and you got to be starting two quarterbacks, this is going to be useful. Absolutely. And it's, it's probably going to be a dude that you could get on the cheap right now and he's actually going to produce for you. I, I, I don't think that they're going to take a quarterback in the first round and he's just going to start most of the season, if not all of the season. And that's arrow up for him where he's been a backup. for most of his career. So anyway, I, I also got some guys that I feel like are kind of flying under the radar here. Just real quickly. I want to say like for Johnny Smith, he landed in Miami last year. He was able to show that he's still a freak athlete and he can make a lot of plays with the ball in his hand. Yeah. They got nothing at the tight end position and in the draft this year, there's basically Brock Bowers and nothing else. So he's going to be the dude next year. I think also Josh Palmer and with the chargers. Everybody else has left. He's the best wide receiver. They had, they'll, they'll draft a dude or two, but it's pretty obvious that he's going to be a big part of that offense next year. Also, when it comes to the Raiders, Zemir white actually got through free agency unscathed. He's going to be their starter. He's probably going to get a huge workload, just like he did when Josh Jacobs was injured last year. He was good for fantasy. Those games that he started, I think he's going to get. A huge workload again, also Christian Kirk, the years before Calvin Ridley showed up, Christian Kirk was getting like 140, 150 targets per season. I think he's going to shoot back up to that. I think that all of the huge names at the wide receiver position are now spoken for in free agency. I think that he was a winner in that regard kind of a, a low key under the radar winner here, I think is. Pat Frymer's with the Steelers he runs a lot of the same kind of underneath routes that Deontay Johnson runs and so Unless they bring in someone who really gets open really well like Deontay was He's going to end up getting a lot more work. And so it's not just gonna be the George Pickens show I think Frymer's
Jason:is gonna get a lot of that too. So in that same vein though Do you think Russell Wilson is gonna at least get a semi E?
Pershin:Russell Wilson gets a semi E just because I, I think that he's going to, he's going to get the keys to start. I'll say this though. It's a risky situation because they brought in Fields and Fields has a ton of talent. As soon as Russell Wilson struggles, A lot of people on that staff, and certainly the fans, are going to be calling for, Let's give Fields a chance here. Let's give Fields a chance. So, I think it's a risky situation for him. If he starts the whole year, I think that he does have decent options on that team. I think that, you know, for all the craziness that Arthur Smith likes to pull, his QBs do seem to produce, fantasy wise. So it's a decent situation for him, I think. I did want to talk about a couple A couple of players that I think are being overrated. There's a lot of hype on Sam Darnold. Guess what? He's not going to be the starter for the Vikings. They're going to draft the quarterback who they expect to be, dude. Okay. Whether it's McCarthy or Jaden Daniels or Drake May, whoever it is. It's not going to be sorry. It's not going to be, it's not going to be Donald. Also Mike Williams,
Jason:a
Pershin:lot of people really excited about Mike Williams going to play with Aaron Rodgers. But the thing is Mike Williams. Older now Coming off an AC tear and guess what it's still gonna be Garrett Wilson first second third read I also think that they're one of the team's most likely to get Brock Bowers In the first round. So I think he, he's not gonna be the dude. He, you know, he might be the second option. Probably he'll be more like the third or fourth option with Brie Hall getting a ton of work in the backfield. You know, Aaron Rogers does not shy away from using his running backs, and I, I would temper expectations from Mike Williams. Awesome. No y in the same regard. In the same regard, drew Lock. In the with the with the giants I'm shocked to see that there's some people excited for a drew lock resurrection. He's not good guys. He's not good The giants even if he is the starter for the giants The offense is buns like it's not exciting. It's not an exciting proposition It's not an exciting proposition Also the same thing with kirk cousins people are like, oh look he gets to throw to drake london And he gets to throw to Kyle Pitts, you know, and he gets Bijon, but like, okay, he just came from throwing to Justin Jefferson,
Jason:Jordan
Pershin:Addison, and Hawkinson, yeah, Hawkinson, I mean, it's, he might do fine, you know what I mean? He's not a bad quarterback or anything, but it's like, he was in a great situation. I don't think it's necessarily arrow up for Cousins. I do think that there are some legit losers though. Just real quickly. I will say that. I was shocked to see Justin Fields. No, no interest. Really. He ends up just being a backup. I thought he was going to get a job somewhere. Things are not looking good. I, I, things are not looking so good for Fields. It, you know, hopefully for him. Russell Wilson will be buns again and he'll get his shot. I will say that, that a huge loser was Justin Herbert, because not only did he lose his running back who he threw to 12 team times a game, but then he lost both of his five receivers. It's like, now you're looking at, he doesn't even have Gerald. He's got Joshua Palmer and he's got Donald Parham. Some of our listeners may not even know who the fuck those people are.
Jason:They'll draft dudes. No, all our listeners know who those guys are.
Pershin:But the thing is, they're going to, they're going to draft a couple of dudes, I'm sure, but there'll be question marks. I mean, this is, this is definitely arrowed down for Herbert. We already talked about Tajay Spears and Austin Eckler. So that basically covers.
Jason:Yeah, well, man, I mean, I for one cannot wait for fantasy. So I hope that that gave everyone just a, just a little taste of what's really not to come. There was a lot of no yeeting. A lot of, a lot of guys on the back. Yeah. This is
Pershin:a, yeah. I mean, for, for every winner. There's at least one loser, sometimes multiple losers with some of these movies. I will say this though, man, as, as a fantasy fan, it has been a wild free agency. Like I, like, I love it. Cause there's just so much to think about and there's just so much implications left, right, and center. You know, we, we kind of just scratched the tip of the iceberg. And you know, as, as players get drafted and we know actual landing spots, for some of these prospects. There'll be plenty more to go over and to, to discuss how we see things playing out this year. But yeah, just a ton of change to the fantasy landscape. And I think it's great. It's just keeps things interesting and keeps the fantasy players on their toes. Absolutely.
Jason:Absolutely. Well, we have come to the close of fantasy yeet or no yeet. I hope you all have fun playing with us as I did. So next week we're going to talk about AFC East in the NFC East teams and what we think they could possibly do to improve their team in the draft. And any other moves that they could make trade wise or pickups if possible. And potential rule, NFL rule changes and rules that are not changing things that are here to stay. So until next time, it's the pine pony podcast and we're
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